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PostSubject: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:01 pm

Hi guys,
Nothing really new yet but I'm just reorganizing, this is where I'll post pictures of my current ongoing projects, updates will be identified by the date in the title. As always, I encourage all feedback, positive and/or negative. I will also attempt to respond to all comments or questions in a timely fashion.

I hope to post pictures of the completed projects in the “Wartube’s Museum of Warfare” forum under the sub heading “Thumper7458’s Completed Mini’s”

Thanks for reading
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed Nov 26, 2008 2:48 pm

Well, I guess I'm starting this session with Orks again. My goal is to try a new technique (for me anyway), dipping. Normally this is done in 1 or two coats of a thicker wood stain it gets the cracks and crevasses filled with a darker pigment, emphasizing the detail and simulating shadows. I've never been too fond of the results that I have seen from other artist, in my opinion, it looks somewhat sloppy and rushed. I have come across an article on CMON (www.coolminiornot.com) that teaches the same technique but slightly atlered, instead of using 1 or 2 coats of a thick pigment, the artist does 5-7 dips in a very thin water based craft paint, he calls the effect "Reverse Highlighting".

The basic idea is, paint the model with basic bright colors, no need for 6 different shades of green to do Orks skin or 4 different metallics for the weapons etc... After you have the basic paint done (as neat as you can) dip the model in a solution of 20 parts water, 1 to 3 parts paint, 2 parts dish soap (to break the surface tension) and 2 parts PVA glue (my guess is to thicken it up the solution a tad and to allow it to adhere to the model better) then let it dry completely. Repeat the dipping process until you are satisfied with the result (usually 5-7 dips, this will darken the bright colors and sink into the cracks and crevasses giving your model some depth. After the last dip has completely dried you can go back and do slight "soft highlights" and and brighten up some other areas such as teeth, horns or blade edges etc...

This technique should work well for Orks as they are a rather dark and brooding beast so they should look the part.

We'll see how it goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:08 pm





I started out with the plan but I wasn't liking the way it was going, it looked too dirty for my taste, so I cheated a bit, I did 4 dips the washed with Delvin Mud, I went over the green skin again ant washed with .... whatever that green wash is, after looking at these blown up shots I still need to do some more "clean up"

Boy you can really see the mistakes when it's blown up this much...lol
I think I make have my first commision, Painting all of the figures in the Descent boardgame..... hmmm that's a lot of figs
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:22 pm

wow dude!! i wish i could get my ork skin like that!!
only one thing! in the first pic the orks left hand there like green on his hand were it sould be black!! not a big thing.

this might be weiard but i love the blue boots there so cool!
keep it up
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:50 pm

Dude that ork is so cool looking, you are a very good painter, keep up the great work.

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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Thu Dec 04, 2008 7:02 am

chaplain001
I see what you mean, between the fingers on the left hand. It does look really sloppy when you blow it up 5x the original size ...lol I've noticed quite a few things that I'm not satisfied with, I'll go back a try to fix those tonight, but otherwise it would look pretty good on the gaming tables as is.

You like the boots!? I'm surprised, actually I thought that the blue on the boots might be a bit too bright

The dipping technique didn't really work out for me, I guess I keep refineing my old way of doing things

If you would like to know how I do the skin I could type it out or we could meet on skype and I tell you....
It's actually quite simple:
1) Black primed model
2) Really dark green (almost black, I can't remember the name)
3) Goblin Green
4) Scorpian Green
5) Thrak Green Wash

All paints have been thinned except for the wash

Thanks for the compliment MasterBragdon


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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:24 am

Good stuff keep it up!!! Id love to see you paint up an armys worth. It would look AMAZING on the the table.
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:51 pm

Thanks,
I would paint an armies worth, if I had the time and money, but it would be pointless as I don't play the game.
Thanks for your comment
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:34 pm

ummm scratch so do u put a badab black wash at the end of that??

because i paint my orks with this sceme:

-black primer
-orkhideshade
-knarloc green
-thraka green wash
-goblin green highlight
-badab black wash

and meaby a badab wash on the boots followed by a ligher blue would look even sweater
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Thu Dec 04, 2008 6:50 pm

If I feel the skin is too light I will give a second coat of green wash to tone it down, I will "blackline" with the black wash where two different textures meet, for example where the arm meets the jacket or when 2 contrasting colors meet such as around the white laces on the back of the leather vest

This model isn't a very good example of "blacklining", I do recall doing some "blacklining" on the dwarf, actuall all of my recent models use this technique to some degree. I won't always use black to "blackline" either, if I'm painting human flesh I'll use a dark brown to "blackline" instead, it looks IMHO, more natural. One note about blacklining, don't blackline everything, if you do it will look too cartoony.

Blacklining is meant to represent a harsh shadow, in real life shadows are rarely pitch black, depending on the color that the shadow is cast upon or the level .... hmmm severity of the shadow, it might be grey or brown, in essence, the shadow will darken the color it's cast upon, not turn it black.

Here's a tip, try mixing the washes, if you want a dark red shadow mix the red wash with either the Delvin mud or Badab Black, you can either wash the entire area and repaint the highlights with you base color or just use your new mixture to paint the recesses

Example: cast a shadow on a white piece of paper, did the paper turn black? Most likely not.

Back to your ending with a black wash, I feel that a black wash dulls the color too much if used at the end, the reason I use a green wash at the end is to basically bring all of the greens together and smooth them out

Sorry for rambling, sometime it takes me a while to get my point across

My Skype is thumper7458 if anyone want to talk painting
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Sat Mar 28, 2009 5:03 pm

I agree about outline-ing in black but not washing in black....
But i outline first and go back in for a coloring book effect...
This makes things like eyes easy...well easier for orcs:)
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PostSubject: Re: Thumper7458's Projects   Wed May 20, 2009 11:00 pm

Awesome ork. those are my favourite edition of orks. i am currently painting some for s's and giggles.
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